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| Wow. I haven't posted something in forever. Haha Well, too keep my story short, up here where i live, its in the 20's and dropping and eloise has been getting a little insane. Even with turnout right before i ride her, shes crazy. I can deal with riding crazy horses, but i can't even walk her to the indoor anymore. She will take off and run me over, rear, buck and she has even kicked me multiple times. It seems like she is imposible right now. I don't know what to do right now. I can't even ride her or do anything with her. What should i do?! Thanks (:
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All horses go wacky when it gets cold. Maybe you could try lunging her for a while and then bring her into the barn and tack her up and then ride.
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All horses go wacky when it gets cold. Maybe you could try lunging her for a while and then bring her into the barn and tack her up and then ride. yep, lunging does wonders.
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Yeah, definitely longe her before you ride. But don't just trot her around, make her canter for a long time until she is really tired. And if she wants to buck, just hold on tight and let her do it, it's better to get it out on the longe line than when you're riding her!
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lunging, and after that, get her in a trot, and do extreemly small circles EVERYWHERE! it does wonders. i had to do that with powder the last time i rode him, it worked! just try it
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| When your on the ground leading her, make her listen. If she tries to run you over, sharply pull the lead rope. Sharp and quick to get her attention. Then lead her into a circle. Do this everytime she tries to run you over. If she rear and kicks, slap and tell her no. This is dangerous behavior. Also, pull down on the lead rope sharply once again. Horse are much bigger and stronger than you and if you don't have their sttention, they can hurt you. Before you ride, lunge her! This works wonder as everyone else said. It gets the crazies out of them. Make her do alot of canter and do some stopping exercises. My mare seems to have forgotten hpw to stop so just say 'whoa' and make her stop periodically. Whoa can be very useful when riding, especially when your about to fall. When riding, keep your horse moving. Don't let her stop or slow down unless you instruct her to. Also, don't let her move or speed up unless you instruct her do. Do figure eights. This is an excellent exercise to make your hors ebehave. i had to do this several times with an ornery horse and it worked. Fianlly, reward her for good behavior. I hope this helps! Sorry for any typos!
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| what kind of lead rope are you using? during the winter especially, i use leather and chain leadropes, putting the chain over the horse's nose. it always works. also, just talk to her when you're leading her. pet her, tell her she's a good girl, etc. when she acts up, give a firm pull on the chain. they know the chain is strong enough to break their nose, so usually after a firm pull they will be better. as for riding, just lunge the crap out of her, perferabbly with your tack on.
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Polo is the exact same. He's weird about lunging though...it just makes him worse. I usually chase him around the ring or a paddock--basically free lunging. Lots of work at the trot helps once you do actually get on her. And I've never tried it, but on a Heartland note, lavender oil is actually calming, so you could try massaging some into her coat.
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| how long is she typically turned out for? horses with 12 hour or 24 hour turnout are usually waaay calmer than ones who only get it for one or two hours.
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| thanks guys! well, i would lunge her...but the only problem is she does not lunge. its nothing i'm doing wrong either. lol. my trainer can't even lunge her. so thats out of the question. i've been experimenting with different things, and if i have someone walk in front of me, even if its just a person or cat, she feels 100 more comfortable. i've also been using a chain leadrope when i lead her and thats doing wonders for me. as for turnout, it depends on the day. it ranges from no turnout to all afternoon. so that varies
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Hmmm. I would say only ride her on days she's turned out. And before you do, make sure your turn her out again. Except this time chase her around with a lunge whip.
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Lunge her before you ride. Walk her around on the ground and make sure you have her attention. MAKE her listen to you. When you ride her, try and keep her under control as much as possible. For what arabianlover607said...NO!!!! Do NOT just let her buck and try to stick it. BAD HABIT. Because she is getting away with what she wants. When you feel her start to buck or take off running, move your hand closer to the bit on one side and pull her head slowly to the side so that it's almost and pretty much touching your boot. This technique works best if you work on it by stretching her muscles in her neck. Your horse has no choice but to listen to you when she's in that position. She can't do anything except attempt to stumble around in tiny, tight little circles. And don't just go around jerking the rope when she misbehaves or slapping her. Try and be firm and strong, not sharp and jerky.
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Hmmm. I would say only ride her on days she's turned out. And before you do, make sure your turn her out again. Except this time chase her around with a lunge whip.
Definitely. That's what I have to do with Polo, because he won't lunge either. Don't tire Eloise out completely, but let her get all her bucks out. Make sure she's cantering, not trotting, and make her go for a while in each direction.
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Lunge her before you ride. Walk her around on the ground and make sure you have her attention. MAKE her listen to you. When you ride her, try and keep her under control as much as possible. For what arabianlover607said...NO!!!! Do NOT just let her buck and try to stick it. BAD HABIT. Because she is getting away with what she wants. When you feel her start to buck or take off running, move your hand closer to the bit on one side and pull her head slowly to the side so that it's almost and pretty much touching your boot. This technique works best if you work on it by stretching her muscles in her neck. Your horse has no choice but to listen to you when she's in that position. She can't do anything except attempt to stumble around in tiny, tight little circles. And don't just go around jerking the rope when she misbehaves or slapping her. Try and be firm and strong, not sharp and jerky. That does work very well. But, what you were saying about lounging, you just don't let her get a reaction out of you, because that is what the horse wants when they buck, is to get a reaction out of you one way or another and if you just keep lounging them until they go around at least one full time without bucking they really aren't getting away with anything because they are working until they decide they aren't going to act like a fruit cake anymore. Idk, thats just my opinion. lol! 
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Yeah, definitely longe her before you ride. But don't just trot her around, make her canter for a long time until she is really tired. And if she wants to buck, just hold on tight and let her do it, it's better to get it out on the longe line than when you're riding her! true to a point. Troting takes more energy for a horse so you'd be better off troting more than cantering. And for the bucking, yes let her but when she does, get after her more. You say she doesn't loung?? all horses have to start somewhere. it will take a little bit of time but echo learned in like a week. just move toward her butt and have her walk. she will want to follow you but thats ok. take a whip or a stick and tap her butt to keep her walking. then go the other way. just start witht he walking. once she catchs on, you can move to the trot then the canter. int eh beginning dont go for more than a couple circles both directions. if you don't want to take the time to teach her, thats ur decision. just giving some tips if you wanted to. :)
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I would lunging her for a very long time, all around the areana, not just in one spot. Do you know how to lung her in a way that teaches her to keep a nice headset. Because if you do that will help. A horse with a nice headset is more likely to be focused on you and only you. I hope I helped. 
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Lunging. Or even better, long-lining. You could buy some Calm n Cool and give her a little squirt of it everyday.
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Lots of people use abuse to make horses submit. Not little slaps and smacks, but real hitting. But another way to teach a horse submit is exhaustion. Lounge your horse before you ride. Make her work and get the buck out of her. once she is breathing pretty hard, stop pushing her and see what she does. If she stops and faces you, she is submitting. If she turns away from you, wont slow down or tries to buck or kick, run some more and try again. I trained my hose this way, and it really works.
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You can join-up. Also I don't like the when horses are called insane, there is always something that is doing it.
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well it makes it difficult that you can't lunge her. anyway when you ride her, just trot her around a bunch, until she's less hyper, then try walking.
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