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Okay, so lately I've been looking into some saddles, and have seen some with interchangeable gullets. I was just wondering if anyone who uses a saddle with an interchangeable gullet thinks of it? Or if anyone has any advice about it? Thanks!
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The problem with interchangeable gullets is exactly that. The gullet size changes, the tree size does not. That is where the problems lie.
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The problem with interchangeable gullets is exactly that. The gullet size changes, the tree size does not. That is where the problems lie.
Yep. So in reality the actual saddle doesn't change to fit the horse, only the front part of it does. So it actually doesn't fit most horses, and will just hurt their backs. It also will break down your saddle faster too.
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Okay, thanks! I wasn't too sure, as I've heard both good and bad on them.
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I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too.
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I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
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I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|. Yeah, Like I agree with them^. Now some people may look at me weird, cause like I just bought a Collegiate convirtable. BUT I'm not changing the tree, soo...mute point. Since I won't change it it dind't make me any difference that it has it. It's not the reason I bought the saddle.
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I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
well it's worked for me and my instructor. She hasn't had any problems like that with it. But they could happen.
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I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
well it's worked for me and my instructor. She hasn't had any problems like that with it. But they could happen. :/
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[quote]laoghaire (3/6/2010)
[quote]Four.On.The.Floor (3/6/2010)
I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
well it's worked for me and my instructor. She hasn't had any problems like that with it. But they could happen.[/quote]
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we both have saddles with interchangeable gullets. She has actually changed hers and has not had a problem with he tree. I havn't had to change them though. It's just my opinon. I happen to like them but people are aloud not to. That's fine.
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Four.On.The.Floor (3/6/2010)
I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
well it's worked for me and my instructor. She hasn't had any problems like that with it. But they could happen.
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we both have saddles with interchangeable gullets. She has actually changed hers and has not had a problem with he tree. I havn't had to change them though. It's just my opinon. I happen to like them but people are aloud not to. That's fine. Have you guys ever had a legit saddle fitter out to make sure it actually is fitting your horses correctly?
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[quote]Snaffle (3/6/2010)
[quote]Four.On.The.Floor (3/6/2010)
[quote]laoghaire (3/6/2010)
[quote]Four.On.The.Floor (3/6/2010)
I have a collegiate with interchangeable gullets and I love it. George is growing so when he does I won't have to buy a new saddle and it can be used on other horses too. I wouldn't bet on that. As I've said, a thousand times now, the GULLET changes, not the TREE width. So if he bulks up, you'll still need a wider tree, or you'll have one very unhappy horse. I don't think most people get that, as they don't exactly come out and advertise it :|.
well it's worked for me and my instructor. She hasn't had any problems like that with it. But they could happen.[/quote]
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My instructor knows how to fit a saddle and if it doesn't fit. I'm not going to argue this. She asked for my opinion and I'm giving it. My instructor would never make her horses uncomfortable.
we both have saddles with interchangeable gullets. She has actually changed hers and has not had a problem with he tree. I havn't had to change them though. It's just my opinon. I happen to like them but people are aloud not to. That's fine.[/quote]
Have you guys ever had a legit saddle fitter out to make sure it actually is fitting your horses correctly?[/quote]
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I just read an article on this and it said the tree can change as well.
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I just read an article on this and it said the tree can change as well.
I'm sorry, but that's not true. A gullet is the FRONT part of the saddle. If it's a changeable gullet, that means you can only change the front part of the saddle. A changeable 'tree' is incredibly different, but if they do make them (I don't think they do)I wouldn't count on the trees staying sound for a year or so. :|
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[quote]Four.On.The.Floor (3/7/2010)
I just read an article on this and it said the tree can change as well.
I'm sorry, but that's not true. A gullet is the FRONT part of the saddle. If it's a changeable gullet, that means you can only change the front part of the saddle. A changeable 'tree' is incredibly different, but if they do make them (I don't think they do)I wouldn't count on the trees staying sound for a year or so. :|[/quote]
well here it is
http://equineink.com/2008/06/28/evaluating-saddle-fit-gullet-width/
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| I really like Bates saddles ...for the rider. the air flocking isn't very comfortable for the horse and doesn't have any room for adjustment. Schleese saddles have fully adjustable trees, but you have to have them adjusted by a professional.
I have a Laser saddle w/ and adjustable(not interchangeable) "head". It adjusts not just the gullet area, but about 1/4 of the saddle, the whole area around and behind the horse's withers. I highly reccomend them, it gives a little more changeability than an exchangeable gullet. It's still important that the tree fit your horse, though. Laser makes their trees w/ wider channels that allow a lot of room for the spine, the also have swallow tailed points, which they say takes pressure off of the shoulder and frees it up.
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Okay, thank you. I will look into Lasers.
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The problem with interchangeable gullets is exactly that. The gullet size changes, the tree size does not. That is where the problems lie. Exactly. lol, I'm going to try and not write a novel, but it happens frequently on these kinds of topics. What happens is you change the gullet. All of a sudden, the saddle fits right? Wrong. It changes the gullet (front part of the tree), not the entire tree, thus making your tree different sizes. It will bother your horses back greatly and if they put up with it, then they're a saint, no joke. It also breaks down the tree of the saddle. Changing the gullet constantly isn't good for the saddle, there's a reason that saddles used to be made without a changeable gullet. It's not good for the tree and it's not good for the horse. I'd stray from changeable gullet saddles and just get a regular saddle that'll fit your horse or if you don't have your own horse, then get one that fits most horses. Generally, unless they're super wide or a pony or something, you can add padding to make the saddle fit the horse more properly than changing the gullet size.
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but if they do make them (I don't think they do)I wouldn't count on the trees staying sound for a year or so. :| Kieffer actually does. The tree itself is re molded somehow, and it can be done several times I believe. Well I'm not sure if Kieffer STILL does, but MY kieffer saddle can be adjusted as many times as I'd wish xD. 'Quality doesn't cost, it pays'
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| On an aside, you can buy Bates saddles with wool flocking. Buuut I hate interchangeable gullets. The saddle just ends up not fitting anything because the gullet sizes are really wierd. If you have a growing horse, don't buy a really nice saddle. If you don't have your own horse, don't buy a saddle.
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