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im just beginning to work with my new horse ollie i want him to be a jumper do you have any ideas how i could start him off? im now walk trot and a little bit of cantering on his back. oh yeah just letting you know hes 5 if that makes a differece
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Get a trainer. That's the best thing you can do if you want to be able to properly train yourselves, and if he's a beginner with that kind of work.

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| A trainer's going to be your best bet. Even if they don't ride the horse, they just coach you through everything. And I wouldn't start jumping anything serious until the horse was at lease 6, maybe even 7, because this can give him soundness issues later on in his life. Best of luck!

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Ok well if you don't want to get a trainer(if you can't afford it or what ever) take it slow. Work him on trott poles. Master 1, then put 2, and so on. After he can do a Whole big circle of trott poles take him over the SMALLEST crossrail you can find, work on that and gradually move up but i wouldn't jump over 2' until he is about 7 just because I don't know his conformation or past or anything lol.
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I say free lunge over a little crossrail, then build it higher, if he does good, start with a pole (on his back) trot over it, then canter, then make it the smallEST crossrail you can make and trot then canter. Repeat the next day. lol im trying not to right long posts so that was really bland D: oh well eh i didnt help what so ever D: hopefully i did :D
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gallopingheart24 (7/10/2009) I say free lunge over a little crossrail, then build it higher, if he does good, start with a pole (on his back) trot over it, then canter, then make it the smallEST crossrail you can make and trot then canter. Repeat the next day. lol im trying not to right long posts so that was really bland D: oh well eh i didnt help what so ever D: hopefully i did :D Oh God. No. Teaching a horse to jump takes more than one day. Trainer and I spent a couple of months on poles and cavaletti (granted, he was really unbalanced, so we had to focus on that, but still). We didn't canter jumps for another couple of months. If you try to do a bunch of polework and crossrails in the same day, you're going to wind up with an unconfident, dishonest horse. (inmostcases)

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| first start off with trot poles. place about five or six poles three strides apart. this will teach him to become aware of where his feet are. also, lunge him over cavaletties. if he builds up some muscle before you ride him over a jump, it'll be easier for him. when you feel confident trot him over a small X. if he's doing really well, maybe canter him over the X. in the months that follow, try a small vertical or and X with a flower or brush box to get him used to different types of jumps. also, see if you can find a trainer. a trainer will make a huge difference and he/she can give you ideas for exercises you can do with him to improve his jumping skills.
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gallopingheart24 (7/10/2009) I say free lunge over a little crossrail, then build it higher, if he does good, start with a pole (on his back) trot over it, then canter, then make it the smallEST crossrail you can make and trot then canter. Repeat the next day. lol im trying not to right long posts so that was really bland D: oh well eh i didnt help what so ever D: hopefully i did :D Oh God. No. Teaching a horse to jump takes more than one day. Trainer and I spent a couple of months on poles and cavaletti (granted, he was really unbalanced, so we had to focus on that, but still). We didn't canter jumps for another couple of months. If you try to do a bunch of polework and crossrails in the same day, you're going to wind up with an unconfident, dishonest horse. (inmostcases) I know. I wasnt saying like one day is all it would take. The next day for many months. I wasnt saying to do it all in one day. My whole post was in a month, maybe more than thats time. By me saying the next day i mean repeat the poles. Yea it didnt really make sense after i wrote it. Somehow the repeat the next day went after not before the trot over a pole lol My computer is really messed up. Yes and I know it is better to get a trainer but for grady we freelunged, then trained regualar basics (trotting poles etc) and then the trainer had trotting poles before a little crossrail it worked for him to focus on not jumping to early to late or not putting himself in the correct frame for jumping. I didnt mean it would only take one day. It took almost a full year for grady to be a jumper
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| Yeah, if you want to pay too much and not teach the horse the way you want it to listen to you, send it off to a trainer. Start him off slow- use ground poles and small jumps on the longe line. After he's doing well, then get on him. Get your hands on a lot of training books BY trainers. I taught my horse myself and he's NEVER run out or refused a jump in his life.

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Barrelandjumpergirl (7/11/2009) Yeah, if you want to pay too much and not teach the horse the way you want it to listen to you, send it off to a trainer.Start him off slow- use ground poles and small jumps on the longe line. After he's doing well, then get on him. Get your hands on a lot of training books BY trainers. I taught my horse myself and he's NEVER run out or refused a jump in his life. That definately isn't true. If you want a horse trained carefully and correctly, not by a beginner's mistakes, then take it to a knowledgable trainer to start it. But anyway- definately don't begin him jumping until he's solid walk/trot/canter on the flat. If you don't give him the solid flatwork foundation, you'll see the consequences of it later on when you're jumping him. I would say take him to lessons with a GOOD trainer, not some backyard cheap one that claims they know what they're doing.
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gallopingheart24 (7/10/2009) I say free lunge over a little crossrail, then build it higher, if he does good, start with a pole (on his back) trot over it, then canter, then make it the smallEST crossrail you can make and trot then canter. Repeat the next day. lol im trying not to right long posts so that was really bland D: oh well eh i didnt help what so ever D: hopefully i did :D Oh God. No. Teaching a horse to jump takes more than one day. Trainer and I spent a couple of months on poles and cavaletti (granted, he was really unbalanced, so we had to focus on that, but still). We didn't canter jumps for another couple of months. If you try to do a bunch of polework and crossrails in the same day, you're going to wind up with an unconfident, dishonest horse. (inmostcases) I know. I wasnt saying like one day is all it would take. The next day for many months. I wasnt saying to do it all in one day. My whole post was in a month, maybe more than thats time. By me saying the next day i mean repeat the poles. Yea it didnt really make sense after i wrote it. Somehow the repeat the next day went after not before the trot over a pole lol My computer is really messed up. Yes and I know it is better to get a trainer but for grady we freelunged, then trained regualar basics (trotting poles etc) and then the trainer had trotting poles before a little crossrail it worked for him to focus on not jumping to early to late or not putting himself in the correct frame for jumping. I didnt mean it would only take one day. It took almost a full year for grady to be a jumper Okay, sorry :P

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Barrelandjumpergirl (7/11/2009) Yeah, if you want to pay too much and not teach the horse the way you want it to listen to you, send it off to a trainer.Start him off slow- use ground poles and small jumps on the longe line. After he's doing well, then get on him. Get your hands on a lot of training books BY trainers. I taught my horse myself and he's NEVER run out or refused a jump in his life. That definately isn't true. If you want a horse trained carefully and correctly, not by a beginner's mistakes, then take it to a knowledgable trainer to start it. But anyway- definately don't begin him jumping until he's solid walk/trot/canter on the flat. If you don't give him the solid flatwork foundation, you'll see the consequences of it later on when you're jumping him. I would say take him to lessons with a GOOD trainer, not some backyard cheap one that claims they know what they're doing. I highly agree with the bolded. And if you're reading books BY trainers, your basically applying what a good trainer would teach you and your horse is person anyways. And you now obviously have a trainer yourself no? Even if thye only gve you lessons, you're still paying to do what your trainer wants to teach you. ;) Doing everything by yourself doesn't make you a great wonderful wonderful rider-sure it makes you a better one and you learn from your mistakes, but it doesn't mean that you're way of training a horse by yourself from books is set any higher than an experienced trainer who is there to help you in case you hit a rough spot or need help with the horses' training. ;)

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| i have watched my freind train like four horses and my instructor train a bunch but i have not really trained a horse all by myself except this one stubborn pony i pretty much helped train a bit. my horse is eight and he is pretty trained but im working with his issues. anyways what i would do is first get your canter down on him and work with him on a lunge too. then trot him over poles like people mentioned before but do it on a lunge before you ride him over them. then when hes comfortable with that on the lunge ride him over it. then work on like x rails with him. (if you have like cavalias or jumps where the posts don't go really high then you can lunge him over small fences first) then it just goes up from there really but before you go real high make sure he learns good form over the fences because if he doesn't have that then hes not really jumping hes just trying to hopefully make it over the scary object. Don't get discouraged though teaching a horse to jump can be a lot of work and can take a LONG time!!!! JUst remember to be hard on him and don't let him refuse any jumps or let him bother you for ex: if he doesn't jump or he throws you off don't get real mad cause he can sense that and then he will just keep doing it every time cause he knows that it bothers you! Horses can be so dumb!!!!! lol!!! :)
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| sorry forgot to add this: best of luck in your training i hope everything goes well!!! :)
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Well i trained my own horse and he's one of the best hunters in the barn.

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Barrelandjumpergirl (7/15/2009) Well i trained my own horse and he's one of the best hunters in the barn. I personally don't care. I was stating my opinion, and if you have the best hunter horse in the barn, then congrats. But I don't truly know that, and no doubt he is an amazing horse. =)

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Definetly get a trainer. They will help you teach your horse to jump.
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I would definetely lunge over jumps first. Practice your jumping position on his back at the trot, and see if you can hold it stirrupless.
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