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Posted 6/27/2009 6:38:11 AM


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SandandSable: Acting that way towards people (Yes! That includes us!) and horses  is just plain stupid.

Acting what way might I ask?

Whoops, my bad. I thought I had posted someone else's username. XD

Wow. Sure.

No, I'm serious.

I'm Mady

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Posted 6/27/2009 6:54:19 AM


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Caught In The Act (6/27/2009)
Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to start a "conversation" x] At least you got a lot of opinions, Kaley!

Hehe, it's fine. Everything about it's fine. xP
That sounded dorky. xD
Yes, I did get a lot of opinions, and it's sparked some interesting reasoning for me, so even if Rainy is still unresponsive, at least I've got something to think about for the next few days. XD Thanks, everybody.

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Posted 6/28/2009 4:00:28 PM


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Make sure you are in a roundpen. A reall roundpen. Because lazy horses will find a corner in an oval pen and go,"Oh, gee, look at that, I'm stuck in a corner and can't go anywhere, guess I don't have to work!"

Try holding onto the cheekpeice of the halter with a dressage whip in your other hand. Walk forwards, leading the horse, and then try to jog and get him to trot. If he doesn't trot, flick him with the dressage whip in the girth area just as you would if you were riding. Once you get him going with enough forward motion, let go of the halter and "follow" him by walking a small circle in the center of the round pen, always keeping the whip pointed at his hind end.

With some horses, you have to just drop the whip, wave your arms and yell "Git up!" while jogging towards them to get them moving. Always chase the horse if you're doing this so they run AWAY from you.

And, you could always try the porcupine game. Get a lunge whip and just flick it at him. If he doesn't go, pop it at him. If he doesn't go, keep moving up the pressure ladder: brush his hindquarters with it, tap his hindquarters with it, give him a strong tap, and finally give him a very assertive tap if he still doesn't go, give him a good slap with it. Keep in mind that you are applying pressure with the stick, NOT the lash. NEVER use the lash. It is for visuall purposes only, so the horses can see it.

I've seen people chuck chunks of sand to get lazy horses moving, but I don't like it. Works for them and their horses though, so it's an idea.

Also consider this: your horse may not need to be lunged before you ride. He may 'not have any extra energy, thank you very much'.

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Posted 7/1/2009 9:36:48 PM


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I know i'm not helping, but i just wanted to state my opinion.

I would rather have my horse work away from the whip because he knows he's supposed to move forward and away from it, rather than because he fears it. That just makes him even more feared of the person holding the whip.
No, the whip should not be his bestest buddy ever, but it shouldn't be his crazy eveil enemy either. 
I'm no Parelli follower, but there are better ways of getting a horse to respond to something like that than making them scared of it.
Unless of course it's one heck of a horse who needs to be taught a lesson on how to mvoe out and away on a lunge line. Then a few exceptions could be made.
A horse should not even be taught in the first place to be freaking scared of a lunge whip because they're smacked with it. It should be gradual, and that's how more horses positively respond by working on the lunge when a whip is snapped lightly, rather than respond negatively and running scared for their life away from it.

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Posted 7/2/2009 5:21:46 AM


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I know i'm not helping, but i just wanted to state my opinion. I would rather have my horse work away from the whip because he knows he's supposed to move forward and away from it, rather than becausehe fears it. That just makes him even more feared of the person holding the whip. No, the whip should not be his bestest buddy ever, but it shouldn't be his crazy eveil enemy either. I'm no Parelli follower, but there are better ways of getting a horse to respond to something like that than making them scared of it. Unless of course it's one heck of a horse who needs to be taught a lesson on how to mvoe out and away on a lunge line. Then a few exceptions could be made. A horse should not even be taught in the first place to be freaking scared of a lunge whip because they're smacked with it. It should be gradual, and that's how more horses positively respond by working on the lungewhen a whip is snapped lightly, rather than respondnegatively and running scared for their life away from it. EDIT: spelling

Exactly. I completely agree. Da Natster, your post really helped. Thanks so much! :]

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Posted 7/10/2009 1:32:19 AM


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Hahaha, let me know if you actually find anything that works. NOTHING gets Obie to go in the round pen. He doesn't care if you use a longe whip, cluck at him, toss sand- nothing gets him moving (or at least nothing I've tried of anyway). It's not a huge deal because when I turn him out he'll chase himself and just run and buck by himself if he's feeling fresh, but if we ever try to have the grooms put him in the rig/longe him instead of riding him one day it just does NOT work out...he doesn't go anywhere lmfao. I swear, every time I try to longe or rig him I wind up getting more exercise than he does from running around trying to get him to go while he walks or trots around or just stands there. The other day I was trying to get him to go in the round pen with no longe line on and I was chasing him with the whip. He just looked at the whip, looked at me, and then got down and rolled. Hahaha.



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Make sure you match YOUR energy with what you want him to do.

Then point in the direction with the line you want him to go.

Slap the ground

slap him

slap harder

slap him even harder

Then chase him if he's being a fat lard.

 

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