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Posted 2/5/2009 4:56:42 PM


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At my barn there is a pony named Brandy. She is an adorable little haflinger, but she has developed some issues. Lately, she has started rearing. At first it was like a few inches off the ground and it didn't really bother her main rider. But now she has started to go higher and higher and is doing to little kids when they just ask her to trot. She has been checked over by vets and there is nothing physically wrong with her. Last Friday, she went completly perpendicular to the ground with a little girl on her when she asked her to trot. This was the highest she had ever gone. It isn't a very fast or violent rear, she goes up really slow, holds it for a few seconds then comes down. Any help would be truly appreciated or she is going to be sold and her main rider is going to be devastated because she has worked so hard training her over the past year. And yesterday Brandy reared straight up with her main rider and it sorta scared her. Any tips on how to help her get over it would also be truly appreciated. Sorry this is so long, but I wanted you guys to get any background information that might help if you have any ideas why she is doing it.

 

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Posted 2/5/2009 5:28:30 PM


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hmm... Is the vet sure she doesn't have any back problems? Even a minor sore could be causing her to do that. :/  Otherwise- how old is she? Green? Is she well trained? Or could she be very sensitive to say a crop or spurrs?

Sorry, these are alot of random possible answers, but im not quite sure of the situation. :]

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hmm... Is the vet sure she doesn't have any back problems? Even a minor sore could be causing her to do that. :/  Otherwise- how old is she? Green? Is she well trained? Or could she be very sensitive to say a crop or spurrs?

Sorry, these are alot of random possible answers, but im not quite sure of the situation. :]

she is absolutley fine. even a professional saddle fitter and equine massage person said that she wasnt in pain. i believe she is about 9. she is sorta green, but not really. she was green when she first came to the barn, but shelby (her main rider and leaser) has worked wonders with her. she has gone through a few phases where she always ran out from jumps and hated baths and just little things, but she always worked out of them. we were wondering if this could possibly be a phase of hers.... she is not sensitive to a crop or spurs at all...

 

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hmm... yep. It could just be a phase....

Is it only transitioning into trot? Or other gaits too? Or was it only in one direction?

ehh... i dunno. Sorry- again these are random. Im just trying to figure out the situation. ^_^

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it is going to any gait, going into the arena, basically whenever she has to work a little harder than what she was currently doing...

 

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It's going to sound harsh, but rearing is seriously one of the hardest problems to fix.  Every time she goes up, no matter how high/low she goes up, you need to smack her between the ears.  It's the only way to get them to stop.  If they know they're going to hit their head, they're not going to go up, so you need to use the crop to resemble the ceiling or whatever, just something they're going to hit their head on.

Yes it sounds cruel, but it's the only thing that's going to fix this habit.

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ive heard of doing that, i have also heard of doing it with a water balloon so they think that they made themselves bleed....

 

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ok, so today i went out to the barn to ride, and my trainer was hooking up the trailer and asked me to go get brandy for her. i was like Oh Crap she sold her! but actually she didnt sell her. we took her and 2 other horses to a oral biomechanic, basically a horse dentist. he worked with her and it was SOOO cool, it is completly differnet from having your horses teeth floated. anyways, he made some adjustments and said that it might stop her from rearing. he showed us these really cool diagrams that show how much of the horse depends on everything in its mouth being correct. this guy was amazing. he has gone all over the world fixing horses, and recently got done with a few of the horses that were in the beijing olympics. a lady that came to watch had had her horses done 2 days earlier and was amazed at the difference. she actually started crying when she told us how much better her horses balance was immediatley after the procedure. anyways, we dont know if it will work, but keep your fingers crossed that it might have helped. sorry this was so long, but i just wanted to share this and let yall know how awesome this guy is!

 

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Posted 2/8/2009 5:54:20 PM


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That's great! ^ I really do hope that she stops rearing!

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The dentist was probobly a good idea. Another thing I just thought about was this: She seems to only do it with inexperienced riders, so she may be sensitive to being chucked in the mouth. I know that when I was trying to slow down a quarter pony that spooked I pulled hard and a little up by accident, and she went up a few inches.

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The very second she even begins to balk and think about rearing, spin her in a circle.  It's also really important to not just get off her once she starts rearing, make her do what you ask, no matter how many times it takes.  If she's already rearing and you couldn't get her in a circle, one thing you can do is to give her a kick or smack her with a crop.  This will make her go forwards, and she can't rear if she's moving forwards.  The most important thing to remember while riding her is to make her ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make her go FORWARDS.  Don't let her get behind your leg, or she's probably going to rear and you'll have to spin her in a circle.  Oh, and never pull on the reins while she's rearing, or she could very possibly flip. 

Something else I've heard of someone doing (successfully) to cure rearing is to have someone follow them around on the ground while they're riding and growl/yell/wave their arms/clap their hands every time the horse tries to rear, while the rider encourages the horse to go forwards. 

Oh, and I've heard of people purposely making their horses flip to cure them of rearing....but it's really dangerous (to the horse and to the rider) and doesn't always cure it.  It's one of those more old-timey training things, though, I'm pretty sure.

Edit: Didn't read thing you said about the teeth xD Anyways, I really hope that fixes it!

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thanks everyone! i will let yall know soon if it appears to have helped! if not than we will try some of the other things....

 

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ok, so shelby rode her today, and she didnt even think about rearing! and she had to work hard in her lesson. we havent tried her with any little kids yet, but hopefully it is a good sign that she didnt even think about rearing today! cuz last time shelby rode her, brandy almost went over backwards!

 

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The very second she even begins to balk and think about rearing, spin her in a circle.  It's also really important to not just get off her once she starts rearing, make her do what you ask, no matter how many times it takes.  If she's already rearing and you couldn't get her in a circle, one thing you can do is to give her a kick or smack her with a crop.  This will make her go forwards, and she can't rear if she's moving forwards.  The most important thing to remember while riding her is to make her ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make her go FORWARDS.  Don't let her get behind your leg, or she's probably going to rear and you'll have to spin her in a circle.  Oh, and never pull on the reins while she's rearing, or she could very possibly flip. 

Something else I've heard of someone doing (successfully) to cure rearing is to have someone follow them around on the ground while they're riding and growl/yell/wave their arms/clap their hands every time the horse tries to rear, while the rider encourages the horse to go forwards. 

Oh, and I've heard of people purposely making their horses flip to cure them of rearing....but it's really dangerous (to the horse and to the rider) and doesn't always cure it.  It's one of those more old-timey training things, though, I'm pretty sure.

Edit: Didn't read thing you said about the teeth xD Anyways, I really hope that fixes it!

:O :O :O...!!!!!!

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The very second she even begins to balk and think about rearing, spin her in a circle.  It's also really important to not just get off her once she starts rearing, make her do what you ask, no matter how many times it takes.  If she's already rearing and you couldn't get her in a circle, one thing you can do is to give her a kick or smack her with a crop.  This will make her go forwards, and she can't rear if she's moving forwards.  The most important thing to remember while riding her is to make her ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make her go FORWARDS.  Don't let her get behind your leg, or she's probably going to rear and you'll have to spin her in a circle.  Oh, and never pull on the reins while she's rearing, or she could very possibly flip. 

Something else I've heard of someone doing (successfully) to cure rearing is to have someone follow them around on the ground while they're riding and growl/yell/wave their arms/clap their hands every time the horse tries to rear, while the rider encourages the horse to go forwards. 

Oh, and I've heard of people purposely making their horses flip to cure them of rearing....but it's really dangerous (to the horse and to the rider) and doesn't always cure it.  It's one of those more old-timey training things, though, I'm pretty sure.

Edit: Didn't read thing you said about the teeth xD Anyways, I really hope that fixes it!

:O :O :O...!!!!!!

that seems like a good idea.

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[quote]Sadiesrider (2/2/2010)
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The very second she even begins to balk and think about rearing, spin her in a circle. It's also really important to not just get off her once she starts rearing, make her do what you ask, no matter how many times it takes. If she's already rearing and you couldn't get her in a circle, one thing you can do is to give her a kick or smack her with a crop. This will make her go forwards, and she can't rear if she's moving forwards. The most important thing to remember while riding her is to make her ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make her go FORWARDS. Don't let her get behind your leg, or she's probably going to rear and you'll have to spin her in a circle. Oh, and never pull on the reins while she's rearing, or she could very possibly flip.

Something else I've heard of someone doing (successfully) to cure rearing is to have someone follow them around on the ground while they're riding and growl/yell/wave their arms/clap their hands every time the horse tries to rear, while the rider encourages the horse to go forwards.

Oh, and I've heard of people purposely making their horses flip to cure them of rearing....but it's really dangerous (to the horse and to the rider) and doesn't always cure it. It's one of those more old-timey training things, though, I'm pretty sure.

Edit: Didn't read thing you said about the teeth xD Anyways, I really hope that fixes it![/quote]

:O :O :O...!!!!!!

that seems like a good idea.[/quote]

Please stop bumping up topics from a year ago.[/quote]

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I would try to lead Brandy around w/ (small) people on her back. Then the leader would be in control & she would get used to being ridden. If you are riding & she does try to rear, lean as far forward on her neck as possible, and tell her "No!" firmly. There could be a number of reasons she does this.                                      Sorry this is all the info I can give you (for now). I'll do some research for you & send you tomorrow.

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Do what Love2Ride said, I do that with my little pony when he rears. Just don't hit the pony between the ears. If you did and hit her to hard, it could kill her.

 

               

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Seems the dentist helped, and I'm not sure what Brandy's schedule is, but also you might try just giving her a few days off (pasture, turnout, etc.) Brandy may need to jsut "unwind" from a lot of training. Hope this helped. Good luck :)

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